tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post5680967727630763264..comments2023-11-24T06:43:02.286+00:00Comments on Aspicientes in Jesum: 'Utraquism'Pastor in Montehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05949810648656544072noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post-49832489832874503802009-02-25T20:21:00.000+00:002009-02-25T20:21:00.000+00:00Rub, yes of course, serves me right for not proofi...Rub, yes of course, serves me right for not proofing... Clean Monday for the start, Great Monday for Holy Week, and Bright Monday for the day after Easter.<BR/><BR/>(Valle: 50 pounds, I bet you kick yourself on a regular basis now.... We've all done that at some time or other -- "I'll get that copy later" then it can't be had for love or money, or at least not a LOT of more money than had you bought it right away.]gemoftheoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05521207668262592414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post-63265790803953146872009-02-25T12:44:00.000+00:002009-02-25T12:44:00.000+00:00Fr Wm: I put up with the hymns really, though Nova...Fr Wm: I put up with the hymns really, though Nova et Vetera do supply a supplement containing the ancient versions of the hymns, and I ordered one with their breviary. It's just a bit too much hassle, I feel.Pastor in Montehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05949810648656544072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post-29436646468605080272009-02-25T12:24:00.000+00:002009-02-25T12:24:00.000+00:00How do you manage with the hymns of the "1962" off...How do you manage with the hymns of the "1962" office? Or is it your lenten penance to offer them up?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post-33459825595829435402009-02-25T12:09:00.000+00:002009-02-25T12:09:00.000+00:00(Gem,Surely Clean Monday is next week not this one...(Gem,<BR/><BR/>Surely Clean Monday is next week not this one just gone. I thought 'Great Monday' was Monday in Holy or Great Week?)<BR/><BR/>The Second Sunday after Christmas is not too difficult to work out. In the old Roman rite the Octave Days of the <I>Comites Christi</I> feasts displaced the Sunday (until 1911 rules) and those Sunday texts (with the collect <I>Omnipotens</I>) became the 'Vigil' of the Epiphany. So the Sunday texts are what was called the 'Vigil'. In Sarum and other pre-Reformation uses (and some others e.g. the Dominican rite) there was a distinct Vigil (with the collect <I>Corda nostra</I>) and texts for the Second Sunday. The 2002 edition of MR has the real Vigil restored.Rubricariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05050302650867319277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post-21684201094416192102009-02-24T22:34:00.000+00:002009-02-24T22:34:00.000+00:00This seems a very sensible, pragmatic solution to ...This seems a very sensible, pragmatic solution to me, and it is one used by a few other of the trad monasteries as well. The Office is meant to link up to the Mass after all.Kate Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01000040465724868745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post-16333867559581331402009-02-24T22:21:00.000+00:002009-02-24T22:21:00.000+00:00Gem: yes there is a Sarum office. I once saw the f...Gem: yes there is a Sarum office. I once saw the four volumes for £50, (Victorian recensions, probably Bradshaw) but I was an impecunious curate then, and did not buy them. One of the regrets of my life.<BR/><BR/>Mark: do get in touch if you like. You can leave a real email address in a comment that I won't publish.Pastor in Montehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05949810648656544072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post-66756993212852194982009-02-24T20:34:00.000+00:002009-02-24T20:34:00.000+00:00This is very interesting, Father. If you have time...This is very interesting, Father. If you have time at some point, I'd love to discuss this further.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post-69829066328828985262009-02-24T20:16:00.001+00:002009-02-24T20:16:00.001+00:00BTW, is there a Sarum Rite office?:-DBTW, is there a Sarum Rite office?<BR/><BR/>:-Dgemoftheoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05521207668262592414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post-66675825301579554012009-02-24T20:16:00.000+00:002009-02-24T20:16:00.000+00:00I was tempted to observe Great Monday yesterday, b...I was tempted to observe Great Monday yesterday, but supressed the thought - not really being up to TWO fasts this week. If you want to get really technical about it, I'm eastern rite, but have mostly gone to the Roman rite most of my life.<BR/><BR/>But this lenten season I may go to the eastern rite Church for Fridays - they really do it up.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Karengemoftheoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05521207668262592414noreply@blogger.com