tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post8008252379713884530..comments2023-11-24T06:43:02.286+00:00Comments on Aspicientes in Jesum: Sarum Maundy ThursdayPastor in Montehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05949810648656544072noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post-14625835185066967902010-12-02T01:02:14.038+00:002010-12-02T01:02:14.038+00:00There was indeed an entire ceremony for the stripp...There was indeed an entire ceremony for the stripping of the altars, fully fitted with responsories and collects. The altar vestments are first removed, then the altar is cleaned with a wine-and-water mixture and scrubbed with a besom (kind of a little broom). <br /><br />I now serve primarily in the Russian Use of the Byzantine rite, but I sure do miss Sarum Holy Week services I knew for decades prior.Fr. Aidanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11111565035017392104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post-48791645280032304942009-04-15T20:21:00.000+01:002009-04-15T20:21:00.000+01:00Altars of repose owe more to the Quarant'Ore devot...Altars of repose owe more to the Quarant'Ore devotions than any ancient practice during the Triduum.<br /><br />Certainly the Sacrament was reserved but altars of repose are hardly heard of before the 1570 Missal. Even following the rubrics of the 'pre-Pius XII' Triduum (and for that matter the reformed <I>Ordo</I>) the Sacrament is still reserved in an <B>additional place</B> to the altar of repose and returned to its usual place after the liturgy of Holy Saturday (c.f. Sarum praxis before Paschal Mattins after the unveiling of images).<br /><br />Sarum, along with other medieval uses, paid great attention to the <I>depositio</I> or 'burial' ceremonies associated with Vespers on Good Friday (c.f. modern Byzantine praxis with the <I>Epitaphios</I>) and the corresponding <I>elevatio</I> or 'raising' of the Cross before Paschal Mattins. The burial of Hosts is later and clearly there was then a fusion of ideas to the detriment, IMHO, of the older practice.Rubricariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05050302650867319277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post-56311376682304126242009-04-15T14:00:00.000+01:002009-04-15T14:00:00.000+01:00We, in the American portion of, the Autonomous Ort...We, in the American portion of, the Autonomous Orthodox Church of Western Europe & the Americas have observed the Sarum Use since the 1970s. In our Online Library at http://kellion.org/<br />one can view various services of Sarum Use including complete text of Maundy Thursday. There are several non-Orthodox books and servicebooks of Sarum Use there as well.<br /><br />Thank you for allowing me to share with you our observance of Sarum.<br /><br />Respectfully in Christ,<br />Fr Monk Symeon<br />http://stjohnskellion.wordpress.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post-23934357806124937162009-04-12T06:45:00.000+01:002009-04-12T06:45:00.000+01:00Carlos: So it would seem.Carlos: So it would seem.Pastor in Montehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05949810648656544072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post-57524483954228435922009-04-12T06:43:00.000+01:002009-04-12T06:43:00.000+01:00No separate ceremony for the stripping of the alta...No separate ceremony for the stripping of the altars?APhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11395966255346711744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post-57891850302728830942009-04-11T15:16:00.000+01:002009-04-11T15:16:00.000+01:00Yes, leave it to the English to include a rubric m...Yes, leave it to the English to include a rubric mandating lunch at the proper time!Lancenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post-63123182322131554862009-04-09T22:35:00.000+01:002009-04-09T22:35:00.000+01:00I think that must have been quite a long lunch. B...I think that must have been quite a long lunch. But I must say: How civilized!gemoftheoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05521207668262592414noreply@blogger.com