tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post949570660519149589..comments2023-11-24T06:43:02.286+00:00Comments on Aspicientes in Jesum: Crossword cluePastor in Montehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05949810648656544072noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post-59641143295245284992008-06-01T16:18:00.000+01:002008-06-01T16:18:00.000+01:00Per saltum, not per saltem.Per saltum, not per saltem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post-27872951738718215522008-04-02T07:47:00.000+01:002008-04-02T07:47:00.000+01:00Well, I suppose it might, in theory, if there were...Well, I suppose it might, in theory, if there were no bishops left anywhere in the world. But I'm not a theologian.Pastor in Montehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05949810648656544072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post-21215116128850397822008-04-01T19:12:00.000+01:002008-04-01T19:12:00.000+01:00Could this mean that a priest has the power to ord...Could this mean that a priest has the power to ordain others to the priesthood, or even the episcopate?<BR/><BR/>Maybe the anti-pope Pius XIII isn't such a nutcase after all?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post-255207051876045812008-04-01T07:51:00.000+01:002008-04-01T07:51:00.000+01:00It is also of course the case that various priests...It is also of course the case that various priests have historically had the power to ordain to various grades. Boniface VIII allowed the Abbot of London's Augustinian Monastery to ordain his subjects as priests (albeit this was soon revoked wanted to reserve this power to himself). Martin V allowed some abbots in Saxony to ordain and Innocnet VIII allowed certain cistercian abbots to ordain, something contained in their rituals right up the the 20the century (although the practice, I believe, had fallen out of use a long time previously)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post-91049850570823856642008-03-31T21:50:00.000+01:002008-03-31T21:50:00.000+01:00The ‘suspension’ of Minor Orders post Vatican II w...The ‘suspension’ of Minor Orders post Vatican II was a surprise to me and I failed to understand the reason for it. The progression through the Minor Orders to the Major Orders was very significant in seminaries in the “old days”. Tonsure was received at the beginning of the first year of Theology. Porter and Lector followed at the beginning of the second year. Then Acolyte and Exorcist at the beginning of the third year and Sub-deacon at the end of it. Finally, Deacon at the beginning of the final year, with Ordination to the Priesthood at the end of it.<BR/><BR/>There was a clear understanding of a progression - a moving towards the ultimate goal with increasing responsibilities along the way. I wish it would be re-instated.<BR/><BR/>As to the difference between a priest and a bishop, this was explained as the bishop having the “fullness of the priesthood” - given his ability to ordain priests and consecrate other bishops. Back then it was also unheard of that a priest would confer Confirmation. This was further emphasized in diocesan life where the Ordinary was <I>the</I> priest of the diocese and all other priests were his helpers – basically acting <I>”in loco episcopi”.</I>GORhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14313101159848740722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post-86152420115366412062008-03-31T19:46:00.000+01:002008-03-31T19:46:00.000+01:00Father,I was told, simply, "Trent was wrong" by th...Father,<BR/>I was told, simply, "Trent was wrong" by the the same theologian, I think.Fr Ray Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post-76019149982072448512008-03-31T19:36:00.000+01:002008-03-31T19:36:00.000+01:00Nihil obstat!<I>Nihil obstat</I>!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post-14095701551658065642008-03-31T17:58:00.000+01:002008-03-31T17:58:00.000+01:00If the Bishop wasn't just a priest with fullness o...If the Bishop wasn't just a priest with fullness of function, how could a priest confirm a newly baptised convert?Ttonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185875893212146794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post-33911782086576036412008-03-31T13:48:00.000+01:002008-03-31T13:48:00.000+01:00Am an atheist, but could be persuaded to give robu...Am an atheist, but could be persuaded to give robust response to Rahnerian innovations in sacramental theology (8,3)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post-73076148883116516052008-03-31T13:01:00.000+01:002008-03-31T13:01:00.000+01:00Am I right, Fr. Sean, in thinking that even the Lo...Am I right, Fr. Sean, in thinking that even the London Oratory refer to 1st and 2nd assistants at the Solemn Mass rather than Deacon and sub-Deacon? Birmingham Ortaory however, still refer to Deacon and Sub-Deacon in their celebration of the Novus Ordo High Mass. Confusing, isn't it?<BR/><BR/>By the way, as a former occasional reporter for R4's 'Sunday' programme, I agree that it isn't a shadow of its former self. Gone are the really good packages which examined religious issues from all sides.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807826652341078989.post-90134388334096098472008-03-31T12:04:00.000+01:002008-03-31T12:04:00.000+01:00Father, it is said that many of these problems of ...Father, it is said that many of these problems of differentiating episcopacy and priesthood boil down to the idea that jurisdiction and orders are the same. This also leads on to interesting questions on the papacy. When we were studying canon law with Fr Ghirlanda at the Gregorian he referred to the approach of Fr Rahner to this question: he said that the papacy was a <I> fourth </I> grade of Holy Orders but one conferred by election rather than by laying-on of hands!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com